Having not used Wigglypaint myself, I was totally unaware of all of this theft/impersonation before now! Great job documenting everything -- I read through the Google doc as well. It seems like quite the stressful mission to take on, but a really valuable service/investigation for the community.
Awesome zine. I didn't know there were multiple scam sites for Wigglypaint. It's really heartbreaking to see someone steal your hardwork and make money from that. Internet Janitor, we are with you man.
This is such a frustrating thing to have happen, oh my god. That aside though, this is a gorgeously put together zine! (I’m really amazed at the wonderful things you have made with Decker!!)
Great zine! It’s pretty wild how Wigglypaint broke containment. The pirate world operates on a totally alien, self-serving logic compared to the open indie ecosystem. Some valuable warnings here, I don’t know what the answer could be, but I take solace in the fact that if anyone digs deep enough they can find the real story (and now, this handsome zine!)
Thank you. The pure pirate sites are definitely the easiest to put in a box. Pure scam, pure deception. The threw a fake page up and then moved on. Okay.
It's the ones who keep building on their scams that get to me. And the site that bugs me the most is the one where they're not anonymous at all and they've connected their real reputations to their art theft. It baffles the mind.
My mind, anyway.
And I'd rather have my mind baffled by MindApe. :) Thank you for reading and commenting. It means a lot.
oh blegh, this sucks... i love wigglypaint and i love seeing popular artists use it but it's always bittersweet when an artist i like uses the #jigglypaint. i dont want to be the one to tell them :/
I've had very mixed results with telling people directly. :') And I really do try to be polite about it because they didn't know. There are signs that something is wrong inside Jigglypaint but they're buried enough that someone just buying an app and drawing in it probably wouldn't notice the issues themselves.
Thank you very much for reading, Flocon! And good to see you.
I'm happy you made this, even though it is clear that this is an issue of pain (i feel it too). I'm not the most active or vocal, but I feel a part of the small decker community here on itch, and it is always a pleasure to play/read your work
Oh oof 😰I read Internet Janitor's blog post about how Wiggly Paint itself got stolen by scammers, but didn't realize that of course the art people made with it would also get stolen... this sucks (the topic I mean, your zine is excellent and the results of your investigation illuminating)
In the beginning I really wondered if I would find someone who gave permission... It wasn't impossible that one of the people running a site with a smaller gallery could have contacted people with an official looking email address or something. But. Well.
(Thank you for printing it out! I'm honored that it found a place in your zine collection.)
Oh I just cut off the margins once it was printed out! I wish I had done that to all of the other zines I printed out haha, tho perhaps it is not too late to still do that...
Yeah, I printed it out, cut off the margins, then folded+made the center cut to fold it into shape. If you cut the margins off after folding, it gets messed up (this was what I did on some other zines and had to redo the 😅) but if you cut the margins first and then fold, it ends up like this!
Adding on to Nice Gear's advice about cutting, there's also this little thing on the front page:
If you set the margins to "None" here before saving an image then all pages will be next to each other on the paper instead of having gaps between them. Then you cut the blank space on the outside, then you fold the smaller piece of paper into a zine.
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Having not used Wigglypaint myself, I was totally unaware of all of this theft/impersonation before now! Great job documenting everything -- I read through the Google doc as well. It seems like quite the stressful mission to take on, but a really valuable service/investigation for the community.
Sorry for replying late (a busy week here) but thank you very much for your kind words. It means a lot to me.
Awesome zine. I didn't know there were multiple scam sites for Wigglypaint. It's really heartbreaking to see someone steal your hardwork and make money from that. Internet Janitor, we are with you man.
It was surprising how many there are!
And thank you very much for checking out the zine.
This is such a frustrating thing to have happen, oh my god. That aside though, this is a gorgeously put together zine! (I’m really amazed at the wonderful things you have made with Decker!!)
Thank you very much for reading. :'D
(And I'm also glad that I've had to the opportunity to get to know your work too because of this recent jam!)
Great zine! It’s pretty wild how Wigglypaint broke containment. The pirate world operates on a totally alien, self-serving logic compared to the open indie ecosystem. Some valuable warnings here, I don’t know what the answer could be, but I take solace in the fact that if anyone digs deep enough they can find the real story (and now, this handsome zine!)
Thank you. The pure pirate sites are definitely the easiest to put in a box. Pure scam, pure deception. The threw a fake page up and then moved on. Okay.
It's the ones who keep building on their scams that get to me. And the site that bugs me the most is the one where they're not anonymous at all and they've connected their real reputations to their art theft. It baffles the mind.
My mind, anyway.
And I'd rather have my mind baffled by MindApe. :) Thank you for reading and commenting. It means a lot.
oh blegh, this sucks... i love wigglypaint and i love seeing popular artists use it but it's always bittersweet when an artist i like uses the #jigglypaint. i dont want to be the one to tell them :/
excellent zine nonetheless!
I've had very mixed results with telling people directly. :') And I really do try to be polite about it because they didn't know. There are signs that something is wrong inside Jigglypaint but they're buried enough that someone just buying an app and drawing in it probably wouldn't notice the issues themselves.
Thank you very much for reading, Flocon! And good to see you.
I'm happy you made this, even though it is clear that this is an issue of pain (i feel it too). I'm not the most active or vocal, but I feel a part of the small decker community here on itch, and it is always a pleasure to play/read your work
I definitely count you among the community here. :') And likewise. Thank you.
That all sucks. But this is really well put together.
Yeah, it really does. And thank you so much for checking it out!
I'd say scammers are vultures but it would make dishonour to vultures.
Thank you for your zine and work showing this.
I get exactly what you mean. :') Thank you very much for reading.
Oh oof 😰I read Internet Janitor's blog post about how Wiggly Paint itself got stolen by scammers, but didn't realize that of course the art people made with it would also get stolen... this sucks (the topic I mean, your zine is excellent and the results of your investigation illuminating)
In the beginning I really wondered if I would find someone who gave permission... It wasn't impossible that one of the people running a site with a smaller gallery could have contacted people with an official looking email address or something. But. Well.
(Thank you for printing it out! I'm honored that it found a place in your zine collection.)
how did you manage to print without the margins? *.*
Oh I just cut off the margins once it was printed out! I wish I had done that to all of the other zines I printed out haha, tho perhaps it is not too late to still do that...
wdym? you cut off the margins after printing the zine? sorry, I am confused.
Yeah, I printed it out, cut off the margins, then folded+made the center cut to fold it into shape. If you cut the margins off after folding, it gets messed up (this was what I did on some other zines and had to redo the 😅) but if you cut the margins first and then fold, it ends up like this!
Adding on to Nice Gear's advice about cutting, there's also this little thing on the front page:
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If you set the margins to "None" here before saving an image then all pages will be next to each other on the paper instead of having gaps between them. Then you cut the blank space on the outside, then you fold the smaller piece of paper into a zine.
❤️❤️❤️ It's a lot, and this zine shows your feelings well. I hope getting it out there is able to help!
Thank you for your support through everything, Millie. ❤️